Wednesday, July 4, 2018

Stealing, AMOG's and trouble in the PUA House

I'm actually about to go out the door but I wanted to get in a quick post as I know if something more interesting happens tonight, I'm not going to want to take the time to write about this particular topic.

I was inspired by last night due to two reasons:

1) My wing got a girl stolen by his roommate at this PUA house
2) I was in this decent set that didn't work out on the street but then I had another chance at the bar but I didn't take it because I didn't want to deal with the guy friend.

Stealing:
I see that I'm learning lessons for free or cheaply from mistakes or situations my wings have found themselves in lately. 

Let me start by discussing literal stealing.  MMA pulled this girl last week that stole a bunch of hit stuff.  I'm going to get the full report today as I'm picking him up but I imagine he took her home and then fell asleep and she stole a bunch of shit. 

I've been thinking that the way my place is set up, this can happen to me.  I've finally taken some steps to prevent such a thing from happening but I'm not fully insulated yet.  The good news for me is that if I drive a girl here, I will be sober as I actually have to drive her and since I go to bed after the sun comes out, chances are that I'm not going to fall asleep before she does.  Still, I moved some valuables to another room and I'm going to hide my credit cards and gift cards.  Previously, that stuff was just lying around and a girl could have easily taken one and I wouldn't even notice it for a long time unless it was one of my primary cards. 

Another thing I can do is just to not girls stay over.  I remember that in a Derek interview, he says one key to hot girls is that you can't let them stay over the first night, as tempting as it might be.  Now, I've probably only pulled one girl that might fit into this category, but I should consider that strategy.  Briefly, the reason is that with super hot girls, every guy is going to try to have her stay over so you stand out when you're not so attached afterwards. 

Competing guys:
My lesson is that I should have gone into that set even though the guy friend or guy that's trying to hook up with her was there.  We opened this 4 girls basically in front of the PUA house.  My girl seemed into me and I thought about number closing (on a sidenote, I think I'm finally motivated to get on snapchat and instagram to help with game).  I heard one of my wings talk about the girls coming to the house for a quick shot.  They start walking away and they don't herd any of the girls.

I found out later that one wing was talking to a genuine lesbian and Seagull's girl wasn't into him and vice versa.  I guess I was the only one that thought the set was good.  I tried moving them to the house and one and possibly two girls were down but I couldn't move all four of them.  I hated that I was mistaken in the plan as it would have been more solid had I known my group didn't care about actually moving htis girl.

Fast forward about 40 minutes later, and I see this girl in another venue.  I had heard her telling her friends that they might go there so I wasn't entirely surprised.  It turns out this guy was talking to her when I found her and he seemed to talk to her the entire time.

Now, legitimately, I might not have wanted to go in and it's not for the reason some might think.  I actually talked about this with another wing that same night:  I know that whatever happens, even if it's the boyfriend, which it wasn't in this case, I'm confident I'll handle the situation and the chances of me getting into an actual fight are so tiny that it isn't even worth worrying about.  I've been in several confrontations in the past and I'm good at getting out of them.  The legitimate reason is that me losing to another guy is such a bad trigger for me that it would probably ruin my night (though maybe I'd get even more motivated for the future).  It also might have been likely I lose to this guy because she actually knew this guy enough to meet him at this bar. 

I should have gone in for the practice and that if I just go in casually, I might find out he's just a guy friend or maybe she'll just like me.  The reason for practice is that quality girls are always going to have orbiters around or just guys trying to hook up with them.  It's known that the hottest girls aren't just going to there by themselves or in an easy situation to pick them up.  Yeah it happens, and it's more likely in say Vegas or on their vacation, but even there, one should expect competing guys.

The only way I'm going to get comfortable dealing with that is to put myself in those situation.  My old wing that got married had told me about several situations with hot girls where he had to even get rid of dudes she also invited to meet her.  I remember that he told me that he hates having to do all that but he made himself do it.

Trouble in the PUA house:
Let me just end with this.  Seagull showed up at the house with a girl that was totally DTF.  I was there because I had stayed out with the roommate while Seagull had been working another girl.  He told us she might bring a friend but when she showed up alone, I just left.  I figured it was an easy close as she had even text him, "I'm not staying over" which is an obvious sign that she wants to hook up.

I woke up to a message this afternoon that apparently, his roommate had stolen the girl from him.  I wouldn't have imagined that being an outcome.  Yeah guys do that shit, and I used to try to do that on the streets (and I should work on that skill again).  Wings are not supposed to do that, and it's even worse when a roommate does that as it's going to be an ongoing situation.  It's worse when someone you trust does it because naturally, you'd talk up your friends rather than taking preventative steps to prevent the girl from being stolen. 

I guess I learned cheaply and I'll argue that Seagull learned a cheap lesson. This girl wasn't that hot and it's better it happened to him here rather than one that he really wanted.  The lesson was cheap for me as I was thinking I might hang out with the PUA house guys some more as Seagull will be busy for the next two months. 

Now, I'm  glad I found this out because I won't be going out with that wing even though I'm sure he'll say he was sorry and was drunk.  I'm also going to be proactive by making the rules clear with MMA as I relate to him what happened in a few minutes. 

I've been lucky to have wings that proactively try to help me and that would never steal a girl from me.  Nintendo, back in the day, got me a lay by having me bring tacos to his place a few years ago, for example.  Nintendo could have stolen girls from me because his game is better and he's just more confident in many ways but he never did so.  I've had positive experiences with my other wings I've gone out with, save one moment when three of us tried to pick up this one girl at the same time (and I think we learned from that debacle as one of those guys was a solid wing for me and even gave me a key to pull to his room in Vegas two Christmases ago when I was there with my mother). 

I'm also lucky this didn't happen to me as it really would have messed me up.  I've mentioned that losing a girl to another guy is like my worst trigger as it happened a lot when I sucked at game and it reminds me of how I never got girls when I was a total AFC.

I'll close by saying all of what I've written above just solidifies what Derek said in the video about developing yourself into that alpha dominant male who knows how to handle tough situations.  Again, the hottest girls are going to have the competing guys so I need to know this.  It's also just a better way to live life and I've seen that in just the improvements I've made within myself in this aspect of my personality. 

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