I started reading RSD Ozzie's book "The Physical Game." I should have gotten this sooner. There is some solid advice there that I really think will take my game to the next level. I also realized that the set I called the "Gibberish escalation" set was what I should focus on from Saturday.
I'm kinoing faster and more often than I ever have in the past. I just need to take things a little further and lead even more. When I used the claw, which is basically putting your arm around the girl, I'd let it go right away. In his book, Ozzie advises leaving it there even if she tries to get away. Of course he has a disclaimer that there's a certain point where you have to stop. If she tells you to fuck off, obviously, you let go. The other point that struck me was how you lead the girl to the dance floor. I've been trying that dance floor isolation move a lot the past week and I couldn't get any girls to go. He says that you need to grab her hand and pull her to the dance floor. She'll probably say no and resist, but it's usually just token resistance.
A memory from my AFC past actually highlights this dance floor move for me. I lusted over this redhead that lived near me for a long time. We used to hang out and one day we all went out to the club. This natural that I hung out with came out too. This was way before I knew about the community. This guy always got girls and I hung out with him cause he was fun and because I was hoping to learn how he did it. Anyway, I remember asking the redhead to dance. She didn't want to. Later, the natural guy asked her. She said she didn't want to but then he grabber her hand and said, "Let's go dance" and of course she ended up following him to the dance floor.
Girls want to be lead:
This is not a new idea of course but I'm really starting to internalize that fact. I think about that SNL that I got in New Years and how I just lead her all over the club. I know that I need to do that but the past week I've been struggling to figure out how to do it again. I've made a lot of progress. I've actually been making myself try to isolate and escalate in every set. Now that I have ideas of how much farther I need to lead things, I think I'm gonna start doing a lot better.
This shouldn't even be that hard of a change. I now see what I should have down with that petite brunette in the gibberish set. I should have put my claw on her. I should have lead her to a different part of the bar so I could actually hear her.
I can't wait to start practicing my new physical game.
Sunday, April 3, 2011
Gibberish escalation can work and pushing hard can mean harsh blowouts
Tonight was disappointing in that I had hoped to get a kiss close or better, but I know that's not a realistic goal. The goal each time is to try to push my comfort zone while tackling specific sticking points and to have fun. I also set the goal of opening those sets that I would have feared opening in the past. The one disappointing thing is that we wandered around the upstairs of Barleycorn for like a 40 minute period where we weren't doing anything but just standing around and value scanning the room. That was super lame. Seagull and I tried to figured out what caused that. I guess it was just too crowded and we let prior failures in that room affect us. We had opened a few sets there that either didn't go anywhere or got interrupted by other BS like friends, people bumping into us or the girls, etc.
Other than the, the night went well. I opened just about every girls that I found really attractive. The one exception was this tall blonde at Barleycorn when we were in a our bad state. I opened several girls that towered over me. I love tall women and I used to be too scared to open them. Lately, I've just been telling myself to open them even though I'll probably get busted out. The next step will be for me to open them and start believing that I can get them. I should use that tall brunette from Friday as reference material demonstrating that tall girls can like me. I opened a tall brunette at Moe's that actually went well except it stalled for a second and I basically gave up instead of plowing.
I felt like I pushed interactions more than I normally would have. There are two examples where I think I could have done better.
Let's go to Moe's:
About 3/4's of the way through the night, we were in the back area of Sluggers. Seagull opened this 2-set and I just danced by myself while I waited for him to hook it. I came in the set, and I remember that the set said early on and then one time later, that they were planning on going to Moe's Cantina. We had already been there and I had forgotten until our debriefing later that the girls had mentioned this. This was the first set that I really felt things were on this night. It seemed like a long time as so much happened before this set. Suddenly, Seagull's girl started gathering her things and then mine chugged her drink and they left. I guess I should have number closed this girl as I felt we had a connection. I think I should be number closing a bit more as I've not be going for that at all. I've gone for numbers in sets that seemed really well. Other times, I feel like I'd likely get the number, but it seems like waste of time. I'm more interested in trying to build my skill set for SNL's, but I should be number closing a few more girls so I have some prospects.
Besides number closing, Seagull and I agreed later that we should have tried to go with them to Moe's. Initially, I was surprised the set was leaving, but Seagull reminded me that the girls had been saying the whole time that they wanted to go to Moe's. When we had them hooked, we should have said, "Finish your drinks and let's go to Moe's." I bet they would have gone with us.
Gibberish escalation:
I wanted to say this was earlier in the night, but it had to have been after the last set. I remember the set above as being the first good set of the night. I guess we returned to Moe's. I remember I opened this petite brunette who was probably 5'3". I remember using the Intent Intro opener. I had a hard time hearing her though. I've lost hearing from being at too many clubs with no earplugs. Working against me in this case was the girl was speaking too softly and she was short. Most girls are close enough to my height that it's easy for them to put their mouth by my ear, or they talk loud enough. This girl might have been even shorter cause I remember she had to stretch a little to talk into my ear.
The funny thing is that I just kept plowing with basically nonsense and she kept staying. I think she said something about a boyfriend or going back to her friends early on. I asked, "Is your boyfriend here?" She said, "No." Then I think I used RSD Tim's, "It's just you and me tonight." I think I also said Tim's, "You're my girlfriend for the next 5 minutes."
I really don't remember how the conversation went. I remember that was beginning to turn away from me 3-4 times and I reeled her back in until I finally lost her at the end. The key thing was that it wasn't like she was facing away from me while this was happening. I felt like thing were on. There was a lot of sexual tension between us. I remember starting to get a hard-on too, which rarely happens to me in field unless I'm grinding with some girl or we're making out. She was completely facing me. I remember we were looking into each others eyes and smiling. I'm sure I had my arm around her too at times. Seagull said he remembered seeing me with this girl and he commented that we looked really into each other.
I don't remember how I eventually lost her. Part of me thinks I needed to kiss her. That might have sealed the deal of her staying with me. I guess I should have started stroking her hair and then her face. I feel like that's the big test for me now. If she's cool with that, and we've been gazing into each others eyes and I feel like it's on, then it's time to kiss. It just felt too quick, but that was because I haven't made it my reality that things can happen that fast. It was also the conversation being gibberish that made me doubt things.
There's excessive gaming again. I have to get it out of my mind that I need to game so much. I knew things were on and I escalated well, but I should have tried to kiss her. I can remember other sets when things were totally on even faster8than they were in this set. Also, this is proof that body language and kino escalation can be more powerful than verbal.
Risking awkward moments and blowouts:
I want to stress for myself that I really did push my comfort zone. I remember I opened this fat blonde at Sluggers near closing time. I opened her with the intention of pushing things fast to try to extract or kiss close. I really went all out. Seagull and I used to talk about cavemaning fat girls just to see if we could pull them. We'd say we were gonna do that, but then we'd game them as normal. I didn't really caveman here, but I was pushing myself hard and I got busted out.
There was some brunette at Sluggers that I tried to push for venue change to after hours. She ended up telling me to go away.
Finally, I opened this 3-set at Flatiron at last call. That's near 5am since it was an after hours place. They said they had just gotten off work so they probably were bartenders from some other place nearby. I didn't have time to really game as the lights came on. I decided to try a food extraction even though I knew chances were slim. The girls tried to tell me that the place I wanted to go was closed. They were full of shit cause we checked it out later. (We wanted to make sure it was open in case we need to venue change a set there on a future Saturday night.) I started brainstorming ideas for a food place. I actually was brainstorming for myself and not really for them. This one girl said, "Hey! You can leave now. Bye" and she waved me away. That hurt at the time and actually hurts now. I'm not used to the harsh rejections any more, but that's what happens when you push hard or push your comfort zone.
Pushed just right or not enough?:
I was about to end the entry but I remember this set at Flatiron. Seagull had gone to open these two blondes. I was standing there when this brunette walked by. She was probably like 5'10" as she was only a bit taller than me. I did the web claw to pull her into me and I gave the Intent Intro opener. She was hooked immediately. We had strong eye contact and we started to talk about travel. I felt like it was on but she suddenly said, "I'm actually look for a friend." Normally, I would have just given up. I knew the right move was to say, "Hey, let's to find her." She said, "No, that's okay." I then said, "Hey, remember, though, it's just you and me tonight."
She walked away. A few minutes later, I saw her standing by herself. As I was about to approach again, I saw some guy talking to her. Seagull said it seemed like the guy knew her. We came back later on and he was still talking to her, or so we thought as we never really got close enough to actually examine the guy in detail.
I'm torn concerning this set. I opened well and I tried to push things along when I normally would have given up. Perhaps I should have approached her when she was alone there. I could have even tried again when the guy was there. I guess if I approached, I would have known what was up. It just seems weird that she walked away when things were on. I don't think I said anything that should have ruined things that quickly so it probably wasn't me at the first encounter.
20 minutes of plowing:
Just as we were about to give up, I opened this 2-set. This was right before I opened the bartenders at closing time. Somehow I ended up talking to this girl who said she was Italian but I thought she was Latina for some reason. She listened to me intently and kept good eye contact but she just wouldn't invest in the conversation. Seagull came in and he seemed to be doing well so I kept trying to plow more. Every time I stop talking, she wouldn't say anything. At first, I kept plowing, but the second and third time I just let the silence sit. They said sometimes that will make the girl talk. The last time, I tried to talk about her rings. I tried to kino her hand at that point and she pulled away so I figured the set wasn't going anywhere. She did add a cool bit about how she actually made one of the rings. Like she actually welded the metal which I think was cool. In a final attempt, I gave her some BS Statement of interest. I said something like, "I guess it's that' mysterious silent type that's drawing me in. You seem opened minded too so I guess that's why I like you." She gave me this weird look. We sat in silence again and then she finally got up and talked to these two guy friends that had been hovering near by.
I assume they were just guy friends cause they never came in and said anything. They just let us run the set. Seagull ended up number closing his girl. She really like him. She kept kinoing him. I'm glad he hit it off cause it meant that my 20 minutes of plowing at least yielded something in the end.
Other than the, the night went well. I opened just about every girls that I found really attractive. The one exception was this tall blonde at Barleycorn when we were in a our bad state. I opened several girls that towered over me. I love tall women and I used to be too scared to open them. Lately, I've just been telling myself to open them even though I'll probably get busted out. The next step will be for me to open them and start believing that I can get them. I should use that tall brunette from Friday as reference material demonstrating that tall girls can like me. I opened a tall brunette at Moe's that actually went well except it stalled for a second and I basically gave up instead of plowing.
I felt like I pushed interactions more than I normally would have. There are two examples where I think I could have done better.
Let's go to Moe's:
About 3/4's of the way through the night, we were in the back area of Sluggers. Seagull opened this 2-set and I just danced by myself while I waited for him to hook it. I came in the set, and I remember that the set said early on and then one time later, that they were planning on going to Moe's Cantina. We had already been there and I had forgotten until our debriefing later that the girls had mentioned this. This was the first set that I really felt things were on this night. It seemed like a long time as so much happened before this set. Suddenly, Seagull's girl started gathering her things and then mine chugged her drink and they left. I guess I should have number closed this girl as I felt we had a connection. I think I should be number closing a bit more as I've not be going for that at all. I've gone for numbers in sets that seemed really well. Other times, I feel like I'd likely get the number, but it seems like waste of time. I'm more interested in trying to build my skill set for SNL's, but I should be number closing a few more girls so I have some prospects.
Besides number closing, Seagull and I agreed later that we should have tried to go with them to Moe's. Initially, I was surprised the set was leaving, but Seagull reminded me that the girls had been saying the whole time that they wanted to go to Moe's. When we had them hooked, we should have said, "Finish your drinks and let's go to Moe's." I bet they would have gone with us.
Gibberish escalation:
I wanted to say this was earlier in the night, but it had to have been after the last set. I remember the set above as being the first good set of the night. I guess we returned to Moe's. I remember I opened this petite brunette who was probably 5'3". I remember using the Intent Intro opener. I had a hard time hearing her though. I've lost hearing from being at too many clubs with no earplugs. Working against me in this case was the girl was speaking too softly and she was short. Most girls are close enough to my height that it's easy for them to put their mouth by my ear, or they talk loud enough. This girl might have been even shorter cause I remember she had to stretch a little to talk into my ear.
The funny thing is that I just kept plowing with basically nonsense and she kept staying. I think she said something about a boyfriend or going back to her friends early on. I asked, "Is your boyfriend here?" She said, "No." Then I think I used RSD Tim's, "It's just you and me tonight." I think I also said Tim's, "You're my girlfriend for the next 5 minutes."
I really don't remember how the conversation went. I remember that was beginning to turn away from me 3-4 times and I reeled her back in until I finally lost her at the end. The key thing was that it wasn't like she was facing away from me while this was happening. I felt like thing were on. There was a lot of sexual tension between us. I remember starting to get a hard-on too, which rarely happens to me in field unless I'm grinding with some girl or we're making out. She was completely facing me. I remember we were looking into each others eyes and smiling. I'm sure I had my arm around her too at times. Seagull said he remembered seeing me with this girl and he commented that we looked really into each other.
I don't remember how I eventually lost her. Part of me thinks I needed to kiss her. That might have sealed the deal of her staying with me. I guess I should have started stroking her hair and then her face. I feel like that's the big test for me now. If she's cool with that, and we've been gazing into each others eyes and I feel like it's on, then it's time to kiss. It just felt too quick, but that was because I haven't made it my reality that things can happen that fast. It was also the conversation being gibberish that made me doubt things.
There's excessive gaming again. I have to get it out of my mind that I need to game so much. I knew things were on and I escalated well, but I should have tried to kiss her. I can remember other sets when things were totally on even faster8than they were in this set. Also, this is proof that body language and kino escalation can be more powerful than verbal.
Risking awkward moments and blowouts:
I want to stress for myself that I really did push my comfort zone. I remember I opened this fat blonde at Sluggers near closing time. I opened her with the intention of pushing things fast to try to extract or kiss close. I really went all out. Seagull and I used to talk about cavemaning fat girls just to see if we could pull them. We'd say we were gonna do that, but then we'd game them as normal. I didn't really caveman here, but I was pushing myself hard and I got busted out.
There was some brunette at Sluggers that I tried to push for venue change to after hours. She ended up telling me to go away.
Finally, I opened this 3-set at Flatiron at last call. That's near 5am since it was an after hours place. They said they had just gotten off work so they probably were bartenders from some other place nearby. I didn't have time to really game as the lights came on. I decided to try a food extraction even though I knew chances were slim. The girls tried to tell me that the place I wanted to go was closed. They were full of shit cause we checked it out later. (We wanted to make sure it was open in case we need to venue change a set there on a future Saturday night.) I started brainstorming ideas for a food place. I actually was brainstorming for myself and not really for them. This one girl said, "Hey! You can leave now. Bye" and she waved me away. That hurt at the time and actually hurts now. I'm not used to the harsh rejections any more, but that's what happens when you push hard or push your comfort zone.
Pushed just right or not enough?:
I was about to end the entry but I remember this set at Flatiron. Seagull had gone to open these two blondes. I was standing there when this brunette walked by. She was probably like 5'10" as she was only a bit taller than me. I did the web claw to pull her into me and I gave the Intent Intro opener. She was hooked immediately. We had strong eye contact and we started to talk about travel. I felt like it was on but she suddenly said, "I'm actually look for a friend." Normally, I would have just given up. I knew the right move was to say, "Hey, let's to find her." She said, "No, that's okay." I then said, "Hey, remember, though, it's just you and me tonight."
She walked away. A few minutes later, I saw her standing by herself. As I was about to approach again, I saw some guy talking to her. Seagull said it seemed like the guy knew her. We came back later on and he was still talking to her, or so we thought as we never really got close enough to actually examine the guy in detail.
I'm torn concerning this set. I opened well and I tried to push things along when I normally would have given up. Perhaps I should have approached her when she was alone there. I could have even tried again when the guy was there. I guess if I approached, I would have known what was up. It just seems weird that she walked away when things were on. I don't think I said anything that should have ruined things that quickly so it probably wasn't me at the first encounter.
20 minutes of plowing:
Just as we were about to give up, I opened this 2-set. This was right before I opened the bartenders at closing time. Somehow I ended up talking to this girl who said she was Italian but I thought she was Latina for some reason. She listened to me intently and kept good eye contact but she just wouldn't invest in the conversation. Seagull came in and he seemed to be doing well so I kept trying to plow more. Every time I stop talking, she wouldn't say anything. At first, I kept plowing, but the second and third time I just let the silence sit. They said sometimes that will make the girl talk. The last time, I tried to talk about her rings. I tried to kino her hand at that point and she pulled away so I figured the set wasn't going anywhere. She did add a cool bit about how she actually made one of the rings. Like she actually welded the metal which I think was cool. In a final attempt, I gave her some BS Statement of interest. I said something like, "I guess it's that' mysterious silent type that's drawing me in. You seem opened minded too so I guess that's why I like you." She gave me this weird look. We sat in silence again and then she finally got up and talked to these two guy friends that had been hovering near by.
I assume they were just guy friends cause they never came in and said anything. They just let us run the set. Seagull ended up number closing his girl. She really like him. She kept kinoing him. I'm glad he hit it off cause it meant that my 20 minutes of plowing at least yielded something in the end.
I wanted to smash this guys face into the concrete
Fortunately, I didn't get into a fight, but it's the first time in a long time that I met someone that just made me angry. I can see how people get into fights when it's possible for me to get so angry at a bar. Keep in mind that I'm an easy going person and I've never gotten into a fight at the bar ever. I'm in fun party guy mode and it's hard for anyone to snap me out of it. I can actually remember the last time I started to feel that adrenaline rush cause there's a chance I could get into a fight. I was out with one of my college buddies and he was having this confrontation with guy. I tried to cool things down and then this drunk asshole tried to start shit with me. I actually laughed at him cause he wanted to prove how tough he was and he was like 6 inches taller than me. He ended up getting kicked out of the club.
Obviously fighting is stupid and doesn't prove anything. What's been proven is that size matters; that's why there are weight classes now in mixed martial arts for example. Yes, skill can make up for size, but if two people are equally skilled, if someone weighs more, they have an advantage. Obviously, there are exceptions. This used to bother me for the longest time, but that's just the way it is. That's why weapons exist. I tiny Vietnamese soldier can take on a giant American soldier when they have guns.
I guess I should explain the story. Seagull and I were out in Wrigleyville. I opened this two set that had this slightly fat blonde who I guess I would do and this cuter girl with brown hair. The set is going okay but it's not really on. Seagull's girl actually seems to like him more. Suddenly, this guy about my height shows up. He tells Seagull not to touch the girl and Seagull isn't even really touching her. He gives this hard look at me. I maintained my party guy mood and said, "Hey man, what's up?" He kept this serious staredown going. I'm like, "Dude, cheer up. It's Saturday night. Try to have fun." I went top shake his hand and he didn't even move. Kept with the dumb staredown. I think I might have even said, "What's up with you?" I think the brunette said that he didn't want us talking to them (meaning the girls.)
The guy was being a total cock. Keep in mind again, that I have no problem with other guys at the bar. Even if I actually overstepped my bounds, I can and have made things cool. If it's some asshole, I usually can just use AMOG tactics to make them look stupid. In retrospect, I probably could have used some of the ones designed for some guy trying to act too alpha and trying to start a fight. I had to use it several years ago and I still remember them. The thing is that we weren't doing anything wrong. We were just talking and these girls weren't even worth all this bullshit.
I held eye contact with him for about 10 seconds and then I just said, "Whatever man." Then I walked away.
The thing is that thinking about the guy just made me angry periodically for a few hours. I actually had to tell myself to relax and sarge. Tyler/Owen talked about how some people are just so negative that they just pull you into that frame. He talks about how he wanted to punch some manager at Denny's one time, and he's a person who actively tries to be nonjudgmental and understanding. Similarly, I'm a guy who tries to be in a fun mood when out no matter what. It's so rare for me to be pulled into negative shit, and the prick was able to do it to me.
I guess I handled things well. I did the smart thing. I didn't get into a fight. I avoided it, and I also I felt like I held my ground enough to show myself and this guy that I wasn't cowering away in fear. I held my ground, tried to lighten the situation, and I walked away cause there was nothing to prove. I walked away because I wanted to and not because I was scared of the guy. The guy was an asshole, but I guess I give out the right vibe. It's not like the guy tried to really verbally escalate it. It's important to me not to just be cowering away in fear as that is what I used to do growing up. I used to give the "pick on me" vibe and another thing the game has given me is that it's made me more confident and comfortable in all situations that I give off a vibe for people not to mess with me. People don't really start fights with me or try to verbally jab at me anymore.
Obviously fighting is stupid and doesn't prove anything. What's been proven is that size matters; that's why there are weight classes now in mixed martial arts for example. Yes, skill can make up for size, but if two people are equally skilled, if someone weighs more, they have an advantage. Obviously, there are exceptions. This used to bother me for the longest time, but that's just the way it is. That's why weapons exist. I tiny Vietnamese soldier can take on a giant American soldier when they have guns.
I guess I should explain the story. Seagull and I were out in Wrigleyville. I opened this two set that had this slightly fat blonde who I guess I would do and this cuter girl with brown hair. The set is going okay but it's not really on. Seagull's girl actually seems to like him more. Suddenly, this guy about my height shows up. He tells Seagull not to touch the girl and Seagull isn't even really touching her. He gives this hard look at me. I maintained my party guy mood and said, "Hey man, what's up?" He kept this serious staredown going. I'm like, "Dude, cheer up. It's Saturday night. Try to have fun." I went top shake his hand and he didn't even move. Kept with the dumb staredown. I think I might have even said, "What's up with you?" I think the brunette said that he didn't want us talking to them (meaning the girls.)
The guy was being a total cock. Keep in mind again, that I have no problem with other guys at the bar. Even if I actually overstepped my bounds, I can and have made things cool. If it's some asshole, I usually can just use AMOG tactics to make them look stupid. In retrospect, I probably could have used some of the ones designed for some guy trying to act too alpha and trying to start a fight. I had to use it several years ago and I still remember them. The thing is that we weren't doing anything wrong. We were just talking and these girls weren't even worth all this bullshit.
I held eye contact with him for about 10 seconds and then I just said, "Whatever man." Then I walked away.
The thing is that thinking about the guy just made me angry periodically for a few hours. I actually had to tell myself to relax and sarge. Tyler/Owen talked about how some people are just so negative that they just pull you into that frame. He talks about how he wanted to punch some manager at Denny's one time, and he's a person who actively tries to be nonjudgmental and understanding. Similarly, I'm a guy who tries to be in a fun mood when out no matter what. It's so rare for me to be pulled into negative shit, and the prick was able to do it to me.
I guess I handled things well. I did the smart thing. I didn't get into a fight. I avoided it, and I also I felt like I held my ground enough to show myself and this guy that I wasn't cowering away in fear. I held my ground, tried to lighten the situation, and I walked away cause there was nothing to prove. I walked away because I wanted to and not because I was scared of the guy. The guy was an asshole, but I guess I give out the right vibe. It's not like the guy tried to really verbally escalate it. It's important to me not to just be cowering away in fear as that is what I used to do growing up. I used to give the "pick on me" vibe and another thing the game has given me is that it's made me more confident and comfortable in all situations that I give off a vibe for people not to mess with me. People don't really start fights with me or try to verbally jab at me anymore.
Saturday, April 2, 2011
Isolation, Escalation, and it didn't work cause they had boyfriends
As I said in my last post, today was night where I practiced isolation and escalation. I learned a lot and I know feel more comfortable doing these things in the future now that I have some reference experiences. Let me start of by saying something that I realized my frame has totally changed. When sets wouldn't get anywhere or the girl wouldn't open up, I used to think that was something wrong with me. Now, I'm realizing that it's often stuff that has nothing to do with me and in many ways is just bad luck. I might also be bordering on arrogance sometimes cause I'll be plowing and in my mind I'm thinking, "How the fuck is this girl not responding to anything I'm saying?" I can see how Jeffy/jlaix can honestly say the when he talks to girls, it's only a matter of time before they are attracted as it's often like that for me at this intermediate stage of my game.
There were two sets tonight that made total sense after I realized what the girl's situation was. The first was this 2-set Seagull and I found early in the night. There was this white girl and this Asian girl. I told Seagull he could have the Asian girl who was cuter cause Asians aren't my thing. He opened them and then I BSed with some mixed sets while waiting. This dude from Kentucky and I ended up talking. He was cool and he mentioned this Thai place he likes called "Joy's." I have the number in my phone and want to try it. I figure if it's still in his phone after moving away, it must be good. He said he was so excited to have their food when he was here.
I started talking to the other girl while Seagull worked the Asian girl. The girl seems interesting enough. She likes travel and smiled when I was talking. She just didn't want to invest in the conversation. She wasn't turning her body language to me and despite smiling and seeming to be interested in the topic of conversation, she just wouldn't open up. It all made sense in about ten minutes when I saw her looking at the entrance and I saw her eyes lit up. Yup, it was her boyfriend. Now, I understood why she was acting so distant. I started talking to the boyfriend's friend and then the Asian girl. The Asian girl was actually pretty cool. Seagull and decided to leave the set though.
"You keep staring at me."
That's what this girl in this mixed set that Seagull and I found ourselves in kept telling me. She was trying to break he state, but it wasn't me staring at her. We were gazing into each others eyes. There was a lot of sexual tension in the air. I had opened this mixed 3-set with one guy, and three girls seated at a table. Instead of opening the guy like I often do, I just did the Intent-Intro opener directly on the girl I wanted. She was receptive and I briefly introduced myself to the friends. Seagull came in after a few minutes, and soon he was having a deep conversation with this blonde. He seemed to hit it offer with her from the start. He ended up going back to that set several times and number closing her.
My target seemed really into me. The conversation was great and she was responding well to my early kino. I put my arm around her a few times and she was cool with that. We kept gazing into each others eyes and smiling, but then she tried to break her state by accusing me of staring at her. I just ignored that and kept talking. When we had silence and were gazing into each others eyes I told her how cute she is and then I started to stroke her hair. She pushed my hand away. I kept talking and then I tried to use Tim's, "You're gonna be my girlfriend for the next 5 minutes." She freaked out about that and wouldn't play along. Then she left to the bathroom and I went to the dance floor.
Near closing time, I found Seagull back in that set. There's this Indian dude sitting next to her. I don't even open her. I actually opened this tall brunette that's in the AMOG story below. After Seagull left the set, I said, "Man, I can't believe she likes that Indian dude more that me. He really outgamed me I guess." Seagull told me something that made everything make sense.
"That's her boyfriend."
Okay, now everything makes sense. It felt so weird that I sensed things were on and she was responding well to escalation and then she just shut down the hair stroking the way she did. Now it made sense. She knew her boyfriend was coming. She was attracted to me. Here's bad luck in sarging. If she were single or frustrated with that boyfriend, or perhaps if he hadn't be set to meet them there, we would have been kissing or more. Instead, she felt like the hair touching was too much and the Tim roleplay really snapped her into reality. She must have thought, "WTF am I doing. My boyfriend is coming soon." That's why she wouldn't play along and soon disappeared.
I'm good at this AMOG stuff:
I guess the years of being picked on in high school and the guys who stole my sets when I first started still piss me off a little bit. That would explain why I get so excited about AMOGing guys. I decided to open this tall brunette. I'm 5'7" and she was a few inches taller than me. I remember when I opened her, she kept looking at me. It was as if she was trying to size me up. I guess it is ballsy for a way shorter guy to come up to a tall girl like that. Of course I didn't flinch and gazed into her eyes as I smiled. I passed the test as we started talking. Suddenly, this huge guy shows up. He was like a foot taller than me, big and had several piercings. He says, "What's up?" and I feel like he's trying to bust me out of the set.
I immediately do something Jeffy described in "The Jeffy Show." I'm like hey man. I put my arm around him. I gotta stand up on my tippy toes for a second to do this. I say, "Hey, you're like my big brother man." I then pinch his cheeks and say, "Awww, look at these cheeks. Isn't that cute."
The right way to do this stuff is to be in fun guy mode. If you do this too serious, you can get in a fight. When your relaxed and being fun, the guy has to accept your frame. He can't just want to fight me cause he'd look totally socially miscalibrated and would weird out the girls. Tyler/Owen explains the theory way better than I can in his old post about "AMOGing."
The guy responded just like the guy in Jeffy's story. He just smiled there and giggled even though I was showing dominance over him. I then rolled off him and started talking to my girl again. I actually have a hard time remembering why the set didn't go anywhere. I think the group had to leave and so my girl did too. I hadn't talked to her long enough to get an number close so that's that.
Shy Filipina girl:
This set surprised me because I'm usually not attracted to Filipina women. Also, while I suspected there was a chance she was Filipina, I didn't quite figure it out right away. As I told her, I usually can spot my own kind. She was really cute and I guess the shyness attracted me too even though it was a pain. Maybe it's the innocence that the shyness implied that attracted me as well. I remember that I opened her and we started talking. She introduced me to her brother. She must have been an older sister cause he didn't try to screen me at all. We kept talking. I kept trying to get close to her but she moved away so then I had to roll back so I didn't seem needy. There were times when I felt it wasn't going anywhere, but then she started to invest bit by bit. I'd stop talking and then she'd start asking me questions which is a big IOI.
We were standing in this dance floor area so it was really loud. I enjoyed the conversation and I wanted to continue so I decided to try for the isolation move. Also, in my mind the whole night, I've been making myself go for the isolation move. Even with that girl in with the Indian boyfriend, I tried to move her to the dance floor. I point to the outdoor area and told her that they convert it to an open air patio in the summer by removing the roof. I had heard a waitress telling a nearby table that earlier. I told her that she she come with me cause I wanted to show her something.
Part of me didn't think she was gonna come, but she slowly came. I had to keep directing her out there. I think I got screwed by how empty that area was. No one was there except a bouncer who was staring at us. I told her to sit down. She said that maybe she should get back to her friends. I said, "You act like we're halfway across the world. Your friend are right there." They were within 10 feet of us, but it was quieter out here. I thought I was ready to really be able to have a conversation, but then she takes a sip of her drink and says, "This drink doesn't taste good. I have to go back in and get another."
I felt like I had gotten blown off. I figured she just got too nervous and wanted to leave but I also didn't want to be standing there waiting so I left. I suppose I should have opened her again but we ended up leaving the venue. She did like me so I have to admit it was dumb not to open here. In my defense, we wanted to get back to Lion Head and we ended up getting there with seconds to spare before they close the doors.
I even got opened on the dance floor again:
This should be a bigger deal but I progressed more in the other sets so that's why this is just an afterthought. After the girl with the Indian boyfriend left me, I had gone to the dance floor. There were about eight people on there and I was just dancing by myself. Suddenly, this decent looking blonde just approached me. She smiled and said hi. We started dancing a little and we also talked. She seemed cool. She traveled in Asia including the Philippines. I wanted to get off the dance floor so I tried to isolate her off, but she said she had to find her friends.
I saw her dancing with some guy and grinding with him occasionally. I figured that I guess she wanted me to grind with her. I also could have kept talking and dancing with her instead of trying the isolation move too early. It's still cool that I got approached twice this week. It's so rare for that to happen. I guess I'm giving out solid vibes now.
I was just holding myself back:
That seems to be my lesson with every breakthrough lately. At least I figured out and accepted why I have been spinning my wheels this past week. Going for the isolation and escalation to kiss close feels easier now. I can tell I'll make the effort every time now and I don't feel like it's a big deal. I know it's better to make that move instead of just sitting there playing it safe and getting stuck in some 20-30 minute set that doesn't go anywhere. Beyond that, getting rejected doesn't even hurt that badly. The one girl just moved my hand away cause she was uncomfortable with the hair touching , but she still wanted to talk for awhile. I fumbled the kiss with that girl at the end of the night but it wasn't even a big deal.
Before I went out, I found this post from Papa on the RSD forums that helped me get in the right mindset. Let me close with that quote:
You gotta always pull the trigger when you have the question in your mind of if you should. The answer is always YES. The girl will always forgive you if you take a shot too early, but you will automatically be put into the friend zone if you are viewed as being too unconfident in yourself for at least trying to escalate things. Plus, it feels a lot better to know if things work out as opposed to the regret of never knowing. The never knowing is the only regrets you'll have in life.
There were two sets tonight that made total sense after I realized what the girl's situation was. The first was this 2-set Seagull and I found early in the night. There was this white girl and this Asian girl. I told Seagull he could have the Asian girl who was cuter cause Asians aren't my thing. He opened them and then I BSed with some mixed sets while waiting. This dude from Kentucky and I ended up talking. He was cool and he mentioned this Thai place he likes called "Joy's." I have the number in my phone and want to try it. I figure if it's still in his phone after moving away, it must be good. He said he was so excited to have their food when he was here.
I started talking to the other girl while Seagull worked the Asian girl. The girl seems interesting enough. She likes travel and smiled when I was talking. She just didn't want to invest in the conversation. She wasn't turning her body language to me and despite smiling and seeming to be interested in the topic of conversation, she just wouldn't open up. It all made sense in about ten minutes when I saw her looking at the entrance and I saw her eyes lit up. Yup, it was her boyfriend. Now, I understood why she was acting so distant. I started talking to the boyfriend's friend and then the Asian girl. The Asian girl was actually pretty cool. Seagull and decided to leave the set though.
"You keep staring at me."
That's what this girl in this mixed set that Seagull and I found ourselves in kept telling me. She was trying to break he state, but it wasn't me staring at her. We were gazing into each others eyes. There was a lot of sexual tension in the air. I had opened this mixed 3-set with one guy, and three girls seated at a table. Instead of opening the guy like I often do, I just did the Intent-Intro opener directly on the girl I wanted. She was receptive and I briefly introduced myself to the friends. Seagull came in after a few minutes, and soon he was having a deep conversation with this blonde. He seemed to hit it offer with her from the start. He ended up going back to that set several times and number closing her.
My target seemed really into me. The conversation was great and she was responding well to my early kino. I put my arm around her a few times and she was cool with that. We kept gazing into each others eyes and smiling, but then she tried to break her state by accusing me of staring at her. I just ignored that and kept talking. When we had silence and were gazing into each others eyes I told her how cute she is and then I started to stroke her hair. She pushed my hand away. I kept talking and then I tried to use Tim's, "You're gonna be my girlfriend for the next 5 minutes." She freaked out about that and wouldn't play along. Then she left to the bathroom and I went to the dance floor.
Near closing time, I found Seagull back in that set. There's this Indian dude sitting next to her. I don't even open her. I actually opened this tall brunette that's in the AMOG story below. After Seagull left the set, I said, "Man, I can't believe she likes that Indian dude more that me. He really outgamed me I guess." Seagull told me something that made everything make sense.
"That's her boyfriend."
Okay, now everything makes sense. It felt so weird that I sensed things were on and she was responding well to escalation and then she just shut down the hair stroking the way she did. Now it made sense. She knew her boyfriend was coming. She was attracted to me. Here's bad luck in sarging. If she were single or frustrated with that boyfriend, or perhaps if he hadn't be set to meet them there, we would have been kissing or more. Instead, she felt like the hair touching was too much and the Tim roleplay really snapped her into reality. She must have thought, "WTF am I doing. My boyfriend is coming soon." That's why she wouldn't play along and soon disappeared.
I'm good at this AMOG stuff:
I guess the years of being picked on in high school and the guys who stole my sets when I first started still piss me off a little bit. That would explain why I get so excited about AMOGing guys. I decided to open this tall brunette. I'm 5'7" and she was a few inches taller than me. I remember when I opened her, she kept looking at me. It was as if she was trying to size me up. I guess it is ballsy for a way shorter guy to come up to a tall girl like that. Of course I didn't flinch and gazed into her eyes as I smiled. I passed the test as we started talking. Suddenly, this huge guy shows up. He was like a foot taller than me, big and had several piercings. He says, "What's up?" and I feel like he's trying to bust me out of the set.
I immediately do something Jeffy described in "The Jeffy Show." I'm like hey man. I put my arm around him. I gotta stand up on my tippy toes for a second to do this. I say, "Hey, you're like my big brother man." I then pinch his cheeks and say, "Awww, look at these cheeks. Isn't that cute."
The right way to do this stuff is to be in fun guy mode. If you do this too serious, you can get in a fight. When your relaxed and being fun, the guy has to accept your frame. He can't just want to fight me cause he'd look totally socially miscalibrated and would weird out the girls. Tyler/Owen explains the theory way better than I can in his old post about "AMOGing."
The guy responded just like the guy in Jeffy's story. He just smiled there and giggled even though I was showing dominance over him. I then rolled off him and started talking to my girl again. I actually have a hard time remembering why the set didn't go anywhere. I think the group had to leave and so my girl did too. I hadn't talked to her long enough to get an number close so that's that.
Shy Filipina girl:
This set surprised me because I'm usually not attracted to Filipina women. Also, while I suspected there was a chance she was Filipina, I didn't quite figure it out right away. As I told her, I usually can spot my own kind. She was really cute and I guess the shyness attracted me too even though it was a pain. Maybe it's the innocence that the shyness implied that attracted me as well. I remember that I opened her and we started talking. She introduced me to her brother. She must have been an older sister cause he didn't try to screen me at all. We kept talking. I kept trying to get close to her but she moved away so then I had to roll back so I didn't seem needy. There were times when I felt it wasn't going anywhere, but then she started to invest bit by bit. I'd stop talking and then she'd start asking me questions which is a big IOI.
We were standing in this dance floor area so it was really loud. I enjoyed the conversation and I wanted to continue so I decided to try for the isolation move. Also, in my mind the whole night, I've been making myself go for the isolation move. Even with that girl in with the Indian boyfriend, I tried to move her to the dance floor. I point to the outdoor area and told her that they convert it to an open air patio in the summer by removing the roof. I had heard a waitress telling a nearby table that earlier. I told her that she she come with me cause I wanted to show her something.
Part of me didn't think she was gonna come, but she slowly came. I had to keep directing her out there. I think I got screwed by how empty that area was. No one was there except a bouncer who was staring at us. I told her to sit down. She said that maybe she should get back to her friends. I said, "You act like we're halfway across the world. Your friend are right there." They were within 10 feet of us, but it was quieter out here. I thought I was ready to really be able to have a conversation, but then she takes a sip of her drink and says, "This drink doesn't taste good. I have to go back in and get another."
I felt like I had gotten blown off. I figured she just got too nervous and wanted to leave but I also didn't want to be standing there waiting so I left. I suppose I should have opened her again but we ended up leaving the venue. She did like me so I have to admit it was dumb not to open here. In my defense, we wanted to get back to Lion Head and we ended up getting there with seconds to spare before they close the doors.
I even got opened on the dance floor again:
This should be a bigger deal but I progressed more in the other sets so that's why this is just an afterthought. After the girl with the Indian boyfriend left me, I had gone to the dance floor. There were about eight people on there and I was just dancing by myself. Suddenly, this decent looking blonde just approached me. She smiled and said hi. We started dancing a little and we also talked. She seemed cool. She traveled in Asia including the Philippines. I wanted to get off the dance floor so I tried to isolate her off, but she said she had to find her friends.
I saw her dancing with some guy and grinding with him occasionally. I figured that I guess she wanted me to grind with her. I also could have kept talking and dancing with her instead of trying the isolation move too early. It's still cool that I got approached twice this week. It's so rare for that to happen. I guess I'm giving out solid vibes now.
I was just holding myself back:
That seems to be my lesson with every breakthrough lately. At least I figured out and accepted why I have been spinning my wheels this past week. Going for the isolation and escalation to kiss close feels easier now. I can tell I'll make the effort every time now and I don't feel like it's a big deal. I know it's better to make that move instead of just sitting there playing it safe and getting stuck in some 20-30 minute set that doesn't go anywhere. Beyond that, getting rejected doesn't even hurt that badly. The one girl just moved my hand away cause she was uncomfortable with the hair touching , but she still wanted to talk for awhile. I fumbled the kiss with that girl at the end of the night but it wasn't even a big deal.
Before I went out, I found this post from Papa on the RSD forums that helped me get in the right mindset. Let me close with that quote:
You gotta always pull the trigger when you have the question in your mind of if you should. The answer is always YES. The girl will always forgive you if you take a shot too early, but you will automatically be put into the friend zone if you are viewed as being too unconfident in yourself for at least trying to escalate things. Plus, it feels a lot better to know if things work out as opposed to the regret of never knowing. The never knowing is the only regrets you'll have in life.
"Hey man, I need this chair..." "I need you too"
Tonight was a night of breakthroughs. I was frustrated cause I haven't been moving things forward and Friday night, I was determined to practice isolation and escalation. I'll start with the story about the title of this post. We had eaten pizza and this new place on Lincoln Ave called "Big Stuff." BTW, Seagull and I now love that place. Late night pizza is usually a rip off affair, $5 for a small slice of pizza. This place offers a $3 slice that dwarfs any other slice out there, and the $5 slice is of ridiculous proportions. It's big enough to even satisfy my fat ass. I'll definitely be there often and I hope to extract girls there for food.
Anyway, I was content with going home after a decent night but we decided to hit Wicker Park. Seagull spotted this 2-set and decided to open them. I didn't want to stand around doing nothing so I opened this blonde. She was larger than the girls I'd normally go for but she was cute. Her tits were hanging out of this dress too which was hot. When I opened her, I immediately noticed she was high buying temperature. It's the way she held my hand longer than most girls when I introduced myself and just the eye contact. The friends went outside for a smoke and I had isolation with her. Soon, I was stroking her hair so I felt like I was gonna kiss close. The other girls had asked me to save their seats. I was also saving a 3rd chair for me.
Suddenly, someone starts grabbing the chair saying, "Hey, can I get this chair?"
I immediately say, "No, I need that chair" and I grab onto it.
Seagull and suddenly notice that we are talking to each other. He grabs the chair and says that he could really use my help. I know that the 2-set must be good or he wouldn't tell me that. I felt torn cause that had to be a good set, but I felt like I was gonna kiss close this girl. I decided I'd try to kiss close and then go help him. It felt like 5 minutes, but I guess it was 15-20 minutes. I number closed the girl and then I started stroking her hair and I went in for the kiss. I'm embarassed to say I kind of missed. It's be awhile... I ended up kissing the right corner of her mouth. She didn't turn away at least, but she felt it was too soon. We kept talking though and then one friend returned and pulled her to the bathroom. I didn't want to wait around so I opened another set.
I saw Seagull talking to some guy. I figured the dude had either come into the set or Seagull was using him as a wing since I hadn't shown up to help him. Seagull eventually extracted that set for food and I tagged along. It turns out that was a different set he opened. When I drove him home, Seagull told me that the 2-set was on. It sounds like we had a chance to pull that set if I had gotten there in time. His girl was totally into him. She had responded enthusiastically to his kino and was touching him. The friend had started to get bored. This is the point where I asked him how he lost the set when I left my set in 5 minutes. He said it was way longer as the other girl had gone to the bathroom and returned and hung out in the time he had grabbed the chair. They had left and I still hadn't joined him.
Our only other 2-set possibility was earlier in the night. I was in this set with this cute Filipina. Seagull felt it was on but one of his AFC friends who had shown up had tried to wing and failed. Seagull said the AFC friend just stopped talking at one point.
Anyway, I was content with going home after a decent night but we decided to hit Wicker Park. Seagull spotted this 2-set and decided to open them. I didn't want to stand around doing nothing so I opened this blonde. She was larger than the girls I'd normally go for but she was cute. Her tits were hanging out of this dress too which was hot. When I opened her, I immediately noticed she was high buying temperature. It's the way she held my hand longer than most girls when I introduced myself and just the eye contact. The friends went outside for a smoke and I had isolation with her. Soon, I was stroking her hair so I felt like I was gonna kiss close. The other girls had asked me to save their seats. I was also saving a 3rd chair for me.
Suddenly, someone starts grabbing the chair saying, "Hey, can I get this chair?"
I immediately say, "No, I need that chair" and I grab onto it.
Seagull and suddenly notice that we are talking to each other. He grabs the chair and says that he could really use my help. I know that the 2-set must be good or he wouldn't tell me that. I felt torn cause that had to be a good set, but I felt like I was gonna kiss close this girl. I decided I'd try to kiss close and then go help him. It felt like 5 minutes, but I guess it was 15-20 minutes. I number closed the girl and then I started stroking her hair and I went in for the kiss. I'm embarassed to say I kind of missed. It's be awhile... I ended up kissing the right corner of her mouth. She didn't turn away at least, but she felt it was too soon. We kept talking though and then one friend returned and pulled her to the bathroom. I didn't want to wait around so I opened another set.
I saw Seagull talking to some guy. I figured the dude had either come into the set or Seagull was using him as a wing since I hadn't shown up to help him. Seagull eventually extracted that set for food and I tagged along. It turns out that was a different set he opened. When I drove him home, Seagull told me that the 2-set was on. It sounds like we had a chance to pull that set if I had gotten there in time. His girl was totally into him. She had responded enthusiastically to his kino and was touching him. The friend had started to get bored. This is the point where I asked him how he lost the set when I left my set in 5 minutes. He said it was way longer as the other girl had gone to the bathroom and returned and hung out in the time he had grabbed the chair. They had left and I still hadn't joined him.
Our only other 2-set possibility was earlier in the night. I was in this set with this cute Filipina. Seagull felt it was on but one of his AFC friends who had shown up had tried to wing and failed. Seagull said the AFC friend just stopped talking at one point.
Friday, April 1, 2011
Time to try to kiss close every set
I guess I had a decent Thursday night. I opened sets and a few girls seemed to be into me. That blonde in the white dress seemed to be high buying temperature too and there was just something sexy about her even though she's not my type other than being blonde.
I have to admit that I'm starting to feel that frustration I felt last year. I'm actually sarging better than at the end of last summer due to fixing some inner game issues and the sheer volume of sarging I've been doing. I'm even having a blast and having no problems going out solo.
Still, I feel like I should be doing more. Pulling girls for SNL would be nice, but I know that will happen eventually. As I keep writing, though, I need to be kiss closing before SNL extractions can even be possible. I think it's time to try that challenge I heard about three years ago.
I remember seeing this video with "Lovedrop," one of Mystery's wings who talked about learning kissing calibration by trying to kiss close every set. That seemed like such a crazy mission to try, but I see that it's what I need to do now. I've been showing a lot more intent, especially during the opener, and it's helped me. I'm doing enough right that it seems that just about every night, there's a set that seems totally on. I just have failed to make something more happen for whatever reason. Wednesday, the friends walked in at a bad time with the really high buying temperature girl, but I should have pushed for the kiss close sooner with the traveling Polish girl.
I feel like I'm spinning my wheels cause I do the same shit every night now. It's good I'm an approach machine again. My game is good enough that girls generally like me when I open them, and a good amount really start to display IOI's. I think I just need to kino escalate more and faster. I need to go for the kiss so I can learn this calibration. Sure, I'm afraid of rejection, but getting rejected is a good thing. It'll give me reference experience: I'll know when I went to soon for the kiss. This post I just read on RSD talked about how sometimes you'll be surprised how many girls well let you kiss them when you think it's not really on.
I'll close by saying I seem to be doing everything right at the moment except for that dance floor anxiety that pops up, and not pushing for the kiss close. If I want to improve, I gotta take on this challenge and really push to get some reference experience.
I have to admit that I'm starting to feel that frustration I felt last year. I'm actually sarging better than at the end of last summer due to fixing some inner game issues and the sheer volume of sarging I've been doing. I'm even having a blast and having no problems going out solo.
Still, I feel like I should be doing more. Pulling girls for SNL would be nice, but I know that will happen eventually. As I keep writing, though, I need to be kiss closing before SNL extractions can even be possible. I think it's time to try that challenge I heard about three years ago.
I remember seeing this video with "Lovedrop," one of Mystery's wings who talked about learning kissing calibration by trying to kiss close every set. That seemed like such a crazy mission to try, but I see that it's what I need to do now. I've been showing a lot more intent, especially during the opener, and it's helped me. I'm doing enough right that it seems that just about every night, there's a set that seems totally on. I just have failed to make something more happen for whatever reason. Wednesday, the friends walked in at a bad time with the really high buying temperature girl, but I should have pushed for the kiss close sooner with the traveling Polish girl.
I feel like I'm spinning my wheels cause I do the same shit every night now. It's good I'm an approach machine again. My game is good enough that girls generally like me when I open them, and a good amount really start to display IOI's. I think I just need to kino escalate more and faster. I need to go for the kiss so I can learn this calibration. Sure, I'm afraid of rejection, but getting rejected is a good thing. It'll give me reference experience: I'll know when I went to soon for the kiss. This post I just read on RSD talked about how sometimes you'll be surprised how many girls well let you kiss them when you think it's not really on.
I'll close by saying I seem to be doing everything right at the moment except for that dance floor anxiety that pops up, and not pushing for the kiss close. If I want to improve, I gotta take on this challenge and really push to get some reference experience.
Short night filled with stalled sets
I started out late. By the time I walked into my first bar in Lincoln Park, it was about 11:15PM. I went to this place O'malley's cause it has a $2 cheeseburger and $1 burger special and $2 drinks. I sat by myself and ate and saw a bunch of mixed sets in the place. I knew I wasn't gonna stay there to sarge. After I ate, it was shortly before midnight when I walked into Lion Head/The Apartment.
I opened several sets early on in Lion Head. The girls seemed to like me off the bat, but the first set had friends show up that were ready to leave. Another two set seemed to be going okay but the obstacle didn't like me. There were two highlights here, I guess.
Opened this hot fresh 21 year old blonde:
I remember going to the bathroom downstairs. As I was walking in, I spotted two sets I could work with. One had this average looking blonde and a darker girl, and there was also this 3-set with this really cute blonde. When I came out, I almost went the set that seemed easier, the 2-set, but something clicked in my head. I told myself that I go for the girls I really want. This would reinforce why I should always do that. I went up to this adorable blonde and she seemed to be into me right away. She seemed flushed from the direct opener, kind of like this tall girl I opened last Friday. It was like her face was flushed when I opened her and she kept smiling. I had briefly talked to the friends, but I guess I didn't win them over enough.
I sat down at the table and I seemed to have mini-isolation with my girl as the other two girls were talking to each other. Suddenly, one of them says she wants to go to the bathroom. I got a huge IOI in that my girl didn't want to go. Bathroom girls asked her several times and my girl finally said they'd wait for her here. About 30 seconds after that girl finally went to the bathroom, my target felt bad about it or something, or I had allowed the set to stall cause of this BS, and she said she had to join her. I was left with this cute girl who still had braces which I thought was hot actually. She started talking to me, but then she decided to go to the bathroom too. WTF.
I've gotten the bathroom blow off countless times in my days but I felt like my target and the braces girl liked me. I guess I just didn't hook that 3rd girls. It was obvious that at least 2 of the 3 girls didn't want to leave me but felt the social pressure of that 3rd girl. Maybe I should have tried to isolate my girl upstairs to the dance floor right off the bat.
2-set, picked wrong target:
I opened that 2-set. I ended up spending a good amount of time in the set. They had this beer tower thing that holds 100 ounces of beer. It's a deal on Thursdays cause it's only $10. Not as good of a deal as Joe's on Tues, but still good. They gave me some free beer. I decided to go for the blonde chick, which was a mistake. She was Polish so I liked her, but it sounded like she was in love with some guy later on. The darker chick was Albanian and actually was pretty cute, even though she wasn't the type I usually like. I mentioned one of my wings. It's a trick I think Style used to use. You accomplishment intro your friends even if they aren't there cause you sound cool if you have cool friends. She seemed like she wanted to meet him. She obviously is looking for a guy. I felt like I chose the wrong girl cause ultimately the blonde wouldn't give me her number. I think if I had focused on the Albanian girl, I might have succeeded there.
I was happy with this set cause I tried several times for the venue change, even when I saw them outside. That's the shit I need to be doing consistently. It's not a big deal whether they accept or not. I love putting it out there.
It's on, but dance floor approach anxiety rears it's ugly head!
I went to after hours. I got on the dance floor even though I didn't like the music. There was this blonde that in a white dress that I found really attractive. She had a little baby fat as she had a small stomach that you could see, but she was sexy at the same time. I'm normally not into breasts, but her dress really highlighted her probably "C" cup boobs. I'm not really into round asses, I generally like them a little smaller, but she had a nice round ass. I guess you'd say she had a few extra pounds, but most of it was in the right places. The black dudes kept staring at her cause that's what they generally like. The friend was bigger and not really attractive.
Those two were on the dance floor. I was out there, but I didn't really open anyone. This chick I wasn't attracted to at all started dancing close to me, but I didn't respond. In retrospect, I should have danced with her and used that social proof to dance with the cute girls on the dance floor.
I saw my 2-set by the bar. Too bad I hadn't spotted them sooner cause I approached at a bad time. They were ready to go outside. My target responded very well. I used the Intent Intro opener, "You are adorable, I wanted to meet you." As I shook her hand as we exchanged names, she held onto me hand longer than most girls do. I had picked a bad time, though, as she was putting her coat on as I opened her. BTW, she thanked me after the compliment and smiled as we looked into each others eyes. She said they were going outside. She caressed my shoulder as she followed her friend.
They came back on the dance floor, and I felt dance floor AA. Prior to them coming, I was on the dance floor as I didn't want to be standing by the bar waiting for them to return. These two Latina chicks were dancing near me. The shorter one kept getting close to me and I kept thinking about opening, but fear just kept holding me back. She moved pretty close to me several times but I didn't do anything and they eventually left. Then, my set came onto the dance floor. I pretended not to notice them. Of course, I saw them. I know the move, I guess. I needed to start dancing with both girls. It seems so hard when I'm actually out there. I guess I can picture in my head how to do it. I start dancing near them and start making eye contact and then I follow what Playersupreme demonstrates. Since it's a 2-set, I switch off between the girls. I couldn't open so I just high fived my girl and kept dancing by myself. Unfortunately, they left the bar shortly afterwards.
No regular AA:
As there was nothing at my usual spot, I checked out this Irish bar around the corner. The only set I had to work with was this mixed 3-set. I almost didn't open them but I figured I walked in, so I might as well do it. I used the cologne mixed set opener and I quickly had my own conversation going with one of the girls. She didn't seem to be into me. Part of the problem was I didn't get close to her and show intent. I guess it was a mixture of the presence of the guy plus, she wedged between two chairs. I thought about how the Community wisdom is not to have a girl feel trapped. For example, you don't talk to a girl where she's wedged in a corner. I felt this was similar though I guess next time I should just move the chair. She didn't respond to my verbal game and the guy and girl joined into our conversation. I guess I could have kept trying to work things but I stalled out and left.
There was this decently cute chubby girl that I had to squeeze by just before I opened this mixed set. She was smiling at me when I talked to her briefly but that was a mixed set also. Maybe I could have worked that instead of going for the mixed set above. I looked for this girl after I Left the set above, but couldn't find them.
I opened several sets early on in Lion Head. The girls seemed to like me off the bat, but the first set had friends show up that were ready to leave. Another two set seemed to be going okay but the obstacle didn't like me. There were two highlights here, I guess.
Opened this hot fresh 21 year old blonde:
I remember going to the bathroom downstairs. As I was walking in, I spotted two sets I could work with. One had this average looking blonde and a darker girl, and there was also this 3-set with this really cute blonde. When I came out, I almost went the set that seemed easier, the 2-set, but something clicked in my head. I told myself that I go for the girls I really want. This would reinforce why I should always do that. I went up to this adorable blonde and she seemed to be into me right away. She seemed flushed from the direct opener, kind of like this tall girl I opened last Friday. It was like her face was flushed when I opened her and she kept smiling. I had briefly talked to the friends, but I guess I didn't win them over enough.
I sat down at the table and I seemed to have mini-isolation with my girl as the other two girls were talking to each other. Suddenly, one of them says she wants to go to the bathroom. I got a huge IOI in that my girl didn't want to go. Bathroom girls asked her several times and my girl finally said they'd wait for her here. About 30 seconds after that girl finally went to the bathroom, my target felt bad about it or something, or I had allowed the set to stall cause of this BS, and she said she had to join her. I was left with this cute girl who still had braces which I thought was hot actually. She started talking to me, but then she decided to go to the bathroom too. WTF.
I've gotten the bathroom blow off countless times in my days but I felt like my target and the braces girl liked me. I guess I just didn't hook that 3rd girls. It was obvious that at least 2 of the 3 girls didn't want to leave me but felt the social pressure of that 3rd girl. Maybe I should have tried to isolate my girl upstairs to the dance floor right off the bat.
2-set, picked wrong target:
I opened that 2-set. I ended up spending a good amount of time in the set. They had this beer tower thing that holds 100 ounces of beer. It's a deal on Thursdays cause it's only $10. Not as good of a deal as Joe's on Tues, but still good. They gave me some free beer. I decided to go for the blonde chick, which was a mistake. She was Polish so I liked her, but it sounded like she was in love with some guy later on. The darker chick was Albanian and actually was pretty cute, even though she wasn't the type I usually like. I mentioned one of my wings. It's a trick I think Style used to use. You accomplishment intro your friends even if they aren't there cause you sound cool if you have cool friends. She seemed like she wanted to meet him. She obviously is looking for a guy. I felt like I chose the wrong girl cause ultimately the blonde wouldn't give me her number. I think if I had focused on the Albanian girl, I might have succeeded there.
I was happy with this set cause I tried several times for the venue change, even when I saw them outside. That's the shit I need to be doing consistently. It's not a big deal whether they accept or not. I love putting it out there.
It's on, but dance floor approach anxiety rears it's ugly head!
I went to after hours. I got on the dance floor even though I didn't like the music. There was this blonde that in a white dress that I found really attractive. She had a little baby fat as she had a small stomach that you could see, but she was sexy at the same time. I'm normally not into breasts, but her dress really highlighted her probably "C" cup boobs. I'm not really into round asses, I generally like them a little smaller, but she had a nice round ass. I guess you'd say she had a few extra pounds, but most of it was in the right places. The black dudes kept staring at her cause that's what they generally like. The friend was bigger and not really attractive.
Those two were on the dance floor. I was out there, but I didn't really open anyone. This chick I wasn't attracted to at all started dancing close to me, but I didn't respond. In retrospect, I should have danced with her and used that social proof to dance with the cute girls on the dance floor.
I saw my 2-set by the bar. Too bad I hadn't spotted them sooner cause I approached at a bad time. They were ready to go outside. My target responded very well. I used the Intent Intro opener, "You are adorable, I wanted to meet you." As I shook her hand as we exchanged names, she held onto me hand longer than most girls do. I had picked a bad time, though, as she was putting her coat on as I opened her. BTW, she thanked me after the compliment and smiled as we looked into each others eyes. She said they were going outside. She caressed my shoulder as she followed her friend.
They came back on the dance floor, and I felt dance floor AA. Prior to them coming, I was on the dance floor as I didn't want to be standing by the bar waiting for them to return. These two Latina chicks were dancing near me. The shorter one kept getting close to me and I kept thinking about opening, but fear just kept holding me back. She moved pretty close to me several times but I didn't do anything and they eventually left. Then, my set came onto the dance floor. I pretended not to notice them. Of course, I saw them. I know the move, I guess. I needed to start dancing with both girls. It seems so hard when I'm actually out there. I guess I can picture in my head how to do it. I start dancing near them and start making eye contact and then I follow what Playersupreme demonstrates. Since it's a 2-set, I switch off between the girls. I couldn't open so I just high fived my girl and kept dancing by myself. Unfortunately, they left the bar shortly afterwards.
No regular AA:
As there was nothing at my usual spot, I checked out this Irish bar around the corner. The only set I had to work with was this mixed 3-set. I almost didn't open them but I figured I walked in, so I might as well do it. I used the cologne mixed set opener and I quickly had my own conversation going with one of the girls. She didn't seem to be into me. Part of the problem was I didn't get close to her and show intent. I guess it was a mixture of the presence of the guy plus, she wedged between two chairs. I thought about how the Community wisdom is not to have a girl feel trapped. For example, you don't talk to a girl where she's wedged in a corner. I felt this was similar though I guess next time I should just move the chair. She didn't respond to my verbal game and the guy and girl joined into our conversation. I guess I could have kept trying to work things but I stalled out and left.
There was this decently cute chubby girl that I had to squeeze by just before I opened this mixed set. She was smiling at me when I talked to her briefly but that was a mixed set also. Maybe I could have worked that instead of going for the mixed set above. I looked for this girl after I Left the set above, but couldn't find them.
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